Frequently Asked Questions

Some points which should help clear up how the leagues Whitemoss compete in operate and why things are done in a particular way.

"Why can't everyone choose their events?"

 

1.     At Inter-club League meetings for each event there are only 2 places available, an "A" string and a "B" string, so it would be impossible, for example for everyone to do a sprint. The exception is at "Open Graded meetings" which are open to any number of individuals. We encourage as many athletes to enter these events as possible.

 

2.        At most meeting there is only a selection of events on the programme for each age group, so sometimes a preferred event may not be on.

 

3.        For the well-being of younger competitors there is a restriction on the number of events that anyone can do, eg 2 x Track & 1 x Field, or 1 x Track and 2 x Field, plus a relay. For those competing in longer track races we try not to select them for other strenuous races. The minimum we usually need in a team for each age group to cover all the individual events plus the relay is 4, but we usually aim for 5.

 

4.     Sometimes there is a clash of events on the timetable which makes it difficult for a competitor to do both.

 

5.        In the younger age groups we try to give most participants a go at different events over the season until we all see what everyone is best at.

 

6.        In some age groups in some events we will be very strong, therefore we may have to rotate selection to give everyone an opportunity.

 

7.        In the older age groups, some of the athletes start to train for a specific group of events and attain a high standard. They will be selected primarily for their stronger events.

 

In order to provide as many opportunities as possible, the club participates in  the indoor league and outdoor leagues both as a club and part of composite teams.  We need active parental support to maintain this.

 

"Why are they not told their events beforehand"

 

1.        We don't always know who is confirmed until a day or two before a meeting.

 

2.        There are ALWAYS last minute withdrawals (and occasionally additions). This means re-arranging the events that the remaining or replacement team members do. As with any sport, if someone drops out, positions or events will be changed.

 

"Why can't we just turn up for our events"

 

1.        Same reason as 2 above.

 

2.        Transport: We organise coaches, and we need as many people as possible to use the coach to cover the hire cost. It also means that the coaches can talk with the athletes on the way there and back, but that requires everyone to travel together.

 

3.        Team sheets have to be completed accurately and lodged with the organisers before the meeting starts. The only way we know for certain that everyone is coming is for everyone to be there in time for the start.

 

4.        Many of the juniors enjoy being away for the day with their team-mates.

 

 

"How do teams get selected?"

Above- Whitemoss AAC's Mens League team manager

 

1.        The team managers select the teams for each meeting. Each coach will take an age group and contact a group of members, taking into account everyone's ability for the mix of events on the programme.

 

2.        The confirmed list of team members (plus all those yet to be confirmed!!) and likely events they will be doing is passed to the Team manager for that League. The Team Manager is then responsible for the logistics of getting 60– 80 competitors to and from the venue; confirming any last minute changes to the team or the events everyone is doing; completing the team sheets (!!!); ensuring we provide the appropriate number of officials / helpers; getting each competitor to the right event at the right time during the meeting and sorting out everything else imaginable with the organisers or club members.

 

The team selection policy can be found on the "Policies and Practices" page

of this website.

 

 

"Who organises the sport (clubs, training, meetings, leagues etc)?"

 

 

At our level the sport is entirely amateur and voluntary. Nearly everything is organised by parents who have got involved through their children.  Most parents will be asked to take a turn in assisting at training, providing transport to venues or helping out at meetings. Please be ready to help.

 

 

"What should competitors (& parents) take to meetings?"

 

1.        Eight safety pins for numbers. We do have a supply but we hand out hundreds every year!

 

2.        Plenty to drink - Fruit Juice, diluted water, or even plain water. Fizzy drinks (in spite of their advertising) are not recommended. Parents may find that a flask of something hot is essential.

 

3.       Light Snacks - Competitors should not have a heavy meal before competing (or training!)

 

4.        A small amount of spending money: There is often a cafeteria at the venue, however we do not like to see junior members eating sweets all day! There will also be a small transport charge for those who are travelling on the coach. This is usually £3.00 regardless of the venue. (Please provide coins rather than large notes!)

 

5.        (All) Warm extra layers of clothing including waterproofs (unless it's a guaranteed heatwave). A change of clothing is highly advisable in wet weather. Make sure your child knows what he or she has brought with him/her. Even indoors at the Kelvin Hall can be chilly.

 

6.        (Parents) A rug, or a cushion, if seating at the venue is limited, or very hard, or folding camp chairs you want to sit in the sunshine.

 

7.        If any competitor is taking medication, or suffers from asthma, please ensure that he/she has all the necessary stuff, and that the coach or team manager knows. A parent coming along is strongly recommended.

 

8.        Running gear, trainers and spikes, shorts, socks etc.

 

9.        Sun tan lotion. Occasionally we do get very sunny days. 

 

"How do the leagues work?"

 

From April – September we compete in inter-club Track and Field leagues. As these are club events, all competitors must compete in club vests. (In really awful weather sensible officials will let competitors in throwing events stay wrapped up.)

 

The scoring system in each league is slightly different, but all have the same basic features as explained below.

1.        Every competitor scores points according to their position in their event, eg 16 pts for 1st "A" string competitor, 15 pts for 2nd "A" ... , 8 pts for 1st "B", 7 for 2nd "B" etc. (The actual number used may vary in different leagues.)

 

2.        The sprints are run as separate "A" and "B" races.

 

3.        For all the field events and the distance races (800m upwards) all the competitors ("A" & "B" strings) compete together. The first ranked competitor from each club in these events counts as the "A" string, irrespective of which way round they may have been declared on the team sheet. If a club has only one competitor then he / she is counted as an "A" string.

 

4.        Each competitor has to wear numbers front and back. There are "A" and "B" string numbers. We try to organise the team sheet to minimise the amount of number changing.

 

5.        Everybody's contribution is important. Someone finishing third in three "B" events will score more points than someone who only competes in, but wins, one A string event.

 

6.        At the end of the meeting the total points scored by each club are calculated, and subsequently scrutinised (which is why it sometimes takes a while for us to get the details). Match points are awarded to each club based on their position, eg 8 points for 1st club, 7 pts for 2nd etc. (Again each league is slightly different according to the number of clubs). There are usually three of four meetings for each league, and the total match points determine promotion and relegation.

 

"How can I assist at club competitions?"

Help out and get a jumper like the one this man is wearing.

 

All the clubs at inter-club Track and Field Meeting need to provide a number of qualified officials and helpers in order to run the various events, especially in the field events. A lot of potential volunteers are a bit apprehensive about helping out, so we've provided a simple explanation of the various elements in organising the field events.

 

All field events:

Someone will be in charge (Leader): He/She will usually be responsible for:

·         registering all the competitors,

·         identifying the right implements for throws,

·         reminding competitors of the rules (what is a no-throw, the number of attempts they will get)

·         ensuring everyone has a practise

·         calling competitors in turn for each attempt,

·         recording attempts on the scorecard,

·         deciding if the throw / jump is valid,

·         fitting in athletes who may have to leave for / return from other events,

·         working out the finish order for all competitors.

 

In the event notes below, the jobs listed are in addition to the "Leader"

 

High Jump

In addition to the leader: 2 helpers

The two helpers place the bar on the high jump stand, and raise the height when directed by the leader (eg "up 3", "up 5" "up 10" ...  to 1m 40 .. etc).

Competitors are eliminated after three consecutive failures. (Very occasionally a competitor may have two failures at a height and elect to have their next attempt at the next height up).

 

Additional tasks for the leader:

·         Ascertain the height at which competitors will enter the competition.

·        In wet weather if there are concerns about competitors slipping on the run-up the event may be called off (or moved indoors if there are facilities).

 

Pole Vault

As High Jump, except:

·        the bar is raised by small pulleys on the stand, so a bit of co-ordination is need as the helpers raise it.

·        One of the helpers may be needed to catch the pole.

 

All throws

In addition to the leader: 4 (or more for longer throws)

·         "Spiking": Spotting where the implement landed and sticking a "spike" into the ground. A measuring tape is attached to the "spike". All throws have to land within a clearly marked sector. The Spiker and Leader will agree if a throw has landed outside the sector (No throw)

·         "Fetching (2)": Collecting the implement and returning it to the throwing area. Often two are needed for longer throws. The "fetcher(s)" work with the "spiker" to agree the landing place.

·         "Pulling Through": The measuring tape is pulled tight through a point in the middle of the throwing circle (or the Javelin run-up)

·         "Reading Off": The distance of the throw is read off the tape from the front of the throwing circle / line (Javelin), and rounded down to the nearest cm. If there is a shortage of officials the leader will do this. The same person will usually have the warning klaxon that is sounded before a long throw to warn everyone that an implement is about to be thrown.

 

Additional Job for Javelin:

·         "Landing judge": The javelin has to land "point first" to be a valid throw – it doesn't need to stick into the ground. The judge positions himself roughly in line where the javelin is expected to land and raises a white flag for a valid throw, red for a foul.

 

The hammer and discuss are thrown from within a safety cage. The hammer uses the smaller of the two throwing circles.

 

Common sense for all judges and competitors at throwing events:

·        Never turn your back when a throw is about to take place!!!!!

·        If the javelin has stuck in the ground, raise the tail so it is perpendicular before removing it. Do not pull it out at an angle. Always carry the javelin perpendicular to the ground, tail up.

 

Long Jump and Triple Jump

In addition to the leader: 4 (or more)

·         "Spiking": Spotting where the jumper landed and sticking a spike into the sand. A measuring tape is attached to the "spike". The measure is taken as the mark in the sand which is nearest to the take-off board. If the jumper leans back and places his/her hand in the sand, or walks out the pit towards the take-off board, then that is the mark which is measured.

·         "Pulling Through": The measuring tape is pulled taught through the jumping board.

·         "Take-off Judge / Reading off": The distance of the jump is read off the tape from the edge of the jumping board, and rounded down to the nearest cm. If there is a shortage of officials the leader will do this. The same person will usually judge whether the jumper took off on or behind the jumping board. There is a second board with plasticine which sits alongside the take-off board and this shows if the jumper was too far forward. (The leader may take this job and delegate one of the helpers to look after the jumpers and the scorecard).

·         "Raking the pit": After each jump has been measured the sand is given a quick rake. Be quick as the rake must be clear before the next jumper can be asked to jump.

 

Additional tasks for Leader / Take-off Judge:

·         Check the sand has been raked and the rake is clear before calling the next competitor.

·         For the Triple jump: Ascertain which take-off point is going to be used. A competitor has to know which one to use. Using one too close to the sand means landing in the sand at the end of the step, using one too far away means landing on the runway at the end of the jump. The jumping order will usually be adjusted according to the take-off point used.